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But when it comes to warren's plan, it is a good thing that the next democratic debate will be at a movie studio because it's going to require a willing suspension of disbelief to swallow this plan. it would almost be -- it's more than the federal budget is today. it's crazy. and if she's going to go out there and say we're going to take away private health insurance, she will pave the pathway to victory for president trump's re-election. it is a disastrously bad idea and very unpopular. >> stay with us, we've got a lot more to talk about and we'll see you a little later in the show. still a...

Look, it's a problem that people are getting through. we want to stop them. here's the message to americans. republicans are trying to stop them and democrats aren't. >> is this a potent argument for democrats? >> listen, the problem is this whole wall gimmick that the president used during his campaign to fire up his crowds was never, ever a viable solution towards national security immigration reform. and so what he's basically doing is wasting taxpayers' money to build this wall that he said in your clip that basically no one could penetrate or break through it. and so i think the thing abo...

Barbara, this was a pretty dramatic arrest, you say. >> yeah, what went down at camp pendle done was something very disturbing. 16 marines arrested by ncia agencies at that morning roll call for alleged human smuggling and drug offenses. 16 of the marines under arrest, another eight marines pulled aside undergoing questioning for possible drug offenses. the marines are said not to be involved in that mission on the southern border, which mexico, which is just a couple hours away. this was a separate operation, separate potentially illegal activity. the question, of course, is how could marine ...

The president. a federal judge shot that down. why you do think this time is going to be different. >> well, i think in this case we're talking about a clear violation of the separation of powers where the president after months of trying to get congress to provide him taxpayer money to build this border wall, which mexico is not going to pay for even though the president promised that would be the case, he is now trying to move beyond congress and do congress's job of trying to take the money that congress allocates and spend it on his wall. that's a clear violation of the article one of the ...

All familiar with the president's routine lies about things large and small, everything from paul manafort's role in his campaign, more on that later, to the crowd size at his inauguration. but this particular lie that the democrats are responsible for a policy put in place by his own department of justice and announced by his attorney general is different. because it's an attempt to deflect blame for an urgent moral crisis happening at this very moment in our country. crisis of this president's own making, that donald trump has admitted he intends to use as leverage to further reduce immigrat...