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There is a its interesting, theyre talking almost exclusively about the abuse of power, theyre not talking much about the obstruction of congress. But i think this has been a civil he had kageducation here,e can decide whether this has been an Impeachable Offense here, because the issues have been aired out well on both sides. Theyre about to finish the roll call. The republicans will lose the democrats who will win, and then a second one will be introduced. Mr. Richmond, you are not reported. No. Mr. Richmond votes no. Are there any other members that havent voted who wish to vote . Mr. Chair...

Of the whistleblower and the timing, that president zelensky was desperate for money, people dying in the field, was asked to do a cnn announcement. and he was going to be on one of cnn's well-known shows dealing with international politics, but it was stopped in its tracks as testified by witnesses under oath because of the whistleblower statement. let me be very clear. there is some representation of crime, crime, crime. first of all, our scholars indicated that these are impeachable offenses. the conduct of the president is impeachable and there is enough evidence to show. but as i indicate...

Giuliani wanted to be secretary of state at the beginning of this administration. he made that very clear. in fact, he told cnn that recently, i wanted to be secretary of state. he now had that opportunity and it really alarmed a lot of people sort of in the career level as well as even some of these political folks. look, i think it's very interesting that rudy giuliani sort of is playing this role and we're learning more and more that sort of confirms that whistleblower statement as the president has been saying the entire thing was wrong. >> he keeps saying it's wrong. every piece of inform...

Standard that it didn't meet this standard. and so, you know, there is this information out there, but it's evidently a second -- somebody who never saw it firsthand. and if you look at the timing, the timing is critical. if this person does indeed have a political bias, the texture of that is important to this. if they have a proclivity to want to take down donald trump this is the deep state fighting back against a disruptive unconventional president who is cleaning out this swamp that we see in washington, d.c. it will continue to come but got bless donald trump. he's doing the right thing....

I asked specifically whether he should have access to that whistleblower statement. here's what ethe said. >> reporter: the whistleblower complaint. so many people have wanted the transcript of that conversation. do you believe we should have it? >> i am not liking how it took off like wildfire with a lot of speculation. i would rather wait till we get access to the real information to make a judgment, but i suspect we'll get access to the information and find out what the facts are. >> boris, i also asked him if it was appropriate for ukraine to investigate joe biden. he said he wanted to wai...