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Many other groups is they held a great deal of territory. they had a state, a government, a regime, an economy. they had a school system. they had a society. that's been largely eradicated in the geographical sense. that does make a victory if that's the word we want to use. the ideas and the recentments that drive people to want to join us, those obviously have not disappeared. but back to your question before, the loss of territory and the loss of a place where people can go and live under what they consider to be god's law, i think that does mark a significant da minute meaiminis group's ap...

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