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Rosen, and our political commentator, margaret hoover. gloria this is as all the of us agree, very, very important how she handles this. why has she waited so long to do this? she probably should have done this on day one, right? >> right. wolf she's an undeclared candidate for the presidency. she doesn't have a campaign apparatus up and running. the downside of not running so quickly or getting in so early is the fact that i think they were unprepared for this controversy. i think they tried to kind of see if a tweet would work. in this particular circumstance it did not work. i would argue i...

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Access is not provision. we have to make a difference between that. the supreme court has already said it's not the same thing. you can go get any -- access is clearly available to anyone. it's a question of how it's provided. >> but elise, a different interpretation of what marjorie is saying, a different interpretation would be one that says wait a minute, we aren't imposing anything on those folks as individuals. they can go out and take whatever stand they'd like to with regard to contraception, but when they hang a shingle. and when they do business as a public entity and live within the ...

Conscious and provide what they think is constitutionally acceptable or not to their own businesses. >> what about the slippery slope argument? surely you know this is going to be raised in this discussion. if you have a different company that says we don't want to provide hiv screening because our biblical idea is against same-sex couples. >> no one has made the argument that we should provide hiv screening. we are getting down to the fundamentals of the constitution. >> if you're saying you're going to allow that privately held business, for-profit business because of their religious princip...

This doesn't answer the why question. it really doesn't help us in assessing risk factors. there are many families that have troubled young adults in their midst. and they're trying to read the tea leaves and determine, is this person really capable of causing harm to themselves or others. >> i think there were clear signs that this young man who had some sort of autism, pervasive developmental disorder, asperger's as it's also been called, had issues with communication, didn't like to be touched. certainly had a lot of issues, but it seemed like he was getting worse and worse, he was decompen...