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Needs him to say it." you really think mueller was screaming for impeachment proceedings? >> for the proceedings, not impeachment, which i think is an important distinction. but i do think that mueller was trying as many different ways as he could to say, we didn't get to the bottom of this, we weren't allowed to get to the bottom of this, because we weren't able to adjudicate whether the president committed a crime. and this is now a matter for congress to take up. he said, we've gone out, we've done the work, we've preserved the evidence for future investigators and now it's up to the proces...

>> garrett, i want to read something that you tweeted today. you wrote, "mueller is in his own mueller-like work screaming for presidential impeachment proceedings but he's too respectful to say it directly as america needs him to say it." you really think mueller was screaming for impeachment proceedings? >> for the proceedings, not impeachment, which i think is an important distinction. but i do think that mueller was trying as many different ways as he could to say, we didn't get to the bottom of this, we weren't allowed to get to the bottom of this, because we weren't able to adjudicate wh...

Appear before your committee? >> a lot more about what could be deemed an obstruction of justice effort by the president and his team. and yes, there might be legal issues involved. attorney/client privilege and all of that, but there's nothing like hearing from the source. and that means michael flynn. in addition, we're still waiting to have mueller come and testify. and there are, you know, barr should testify, especially after the press conference that he gave recently, where he seemed to be just enjoying himself immensely, being the president's personal lawyer as opposed to the attorney g...

Was charged by mueller in connection with this? >> i don't think surprised. i'm trying to do my sort of vulcan mind meld with robert mueller here. and i can only draw one conclusion. and that is a man who i never saw shy away from decision, tell me what you think around the table, here's what we're going to do. tough decision, are we going to arrest a terrorist? never shid away from a decision, didn't see many gray areas, all of a sudden he decides not to make a decision in this case and he says, as you know, in the document, makes some comments about congress picking up the case. i can only d...

Sense of just, it would probably reflect some previous conversations. you know, you kind of get a sense of the tone and the direction of where they're going with this. and that's something that the american public can judge for themselves on whether they thought it was coercive or suggestive. and i think we're seeing judges starting to believe that more and more of this information should become public, because the public, it seems through a number of decisions and unredactions that judges believe that the public should have a chance to know what the findings are. >> and evan, a key question s...