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Phase, looking the president down on this investigation, will the president sit with mueller, will mueller have a chance to understand from the president why he did the things he did, why did he fire jim comey, why did he ask comey to end the flynn investigation? that will allow mueller to assess what were truly the president's intentions? >> michael, you and i have had this conversation before. when we learn that mueller's on to something, isn't the usual rule of thumb that he's been on it for weeks or months before we have learned about it? >> yeah, we don't know if this is a part of the obs...

Move beyond it. or was there a larger motivation there, was there a corrupt intent to actually get in the way of the investigation? and now that these questions have surfaced, i find it hard to believe that mueller will not try and find that out. and the way that he can do that at the heart of this is obviously with the interview with the president. the biggest question, the next phase, looking the president down on this investigation, will the president sit with mueller, will mueller have a chance to understand from the president why he did the things he did, why did he fire jim comey, why di...

Bannon also says he thinks the president is -- his words -- going to war over mueller. so what does all this mean for the russia investigation? the president says he'd still like to testify before the special counsel. sure seems like it, doesn't it? and if the president does testify, will mueller ask him about another piece of tonight's breaking news the special counsel's team has reportedly traced the identity of guccifer 2.0. it was an officer of russia's military intelligence director, bringing it straight to the doorsteps of the kremlin. all this as another woman who says she had an affair...

So with that said, if he believes that, would he actually support the president sitting down with mueller? >> he may not. it's hard to know. again, as i said, it's the president's call. the president said he wants to do that. so regardless of what individual lawyer's view is. the other thing about huckabee's statement that deserves comments, trump's lawyers are not in control of this. i'm sure they would prefer written questions. the question is, will mueller allow written questions. that's a negotiation that needs to happen. there's less risk if you can write out your answers. i strongly doub...

Misstatement, you don't get to fix that. that exposes you to criminal liability. so this is a danger, will robinson, territory here. the president has said he's eager to talk. so i think that is the potential conflict here. and as the ap reported and others have reported, there's a back and forth on what are the ground rules going to be? what can they talk about? the lawyers are going to try to narrow that as much as possible. so that they don't give president trump a lot of like free range to go in and chat. >> what's in it for mueller to agree to ground rules, other than just being an all-ar...