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Stage, even if you adopt the fiorina rules, the top ten in policy after the first debate, just august and september follows, one or both of them might even be out. in a way, cnn is, in a certain sense, whittling the rest of the field for everyone. the question will be the rest of the cycle. will nibble, you know, have a kiddy table debate. will there be another happy hour debate? or will it just be these 11? if you're not in this group 11, are you no longer a serious political candidate? >> zeke miller, thanks for your time tonight. appreciate having you here. >> thanks for having me. >> i wil...

After being in that happy hour debate, in the fox news debate back in august, she actually surged. everyone else in that field stayed the same or fell. rick perry had that money trouble a couple of days after that debate. and you know, started running into problems right there. the rest of them looked like they belong there had. fiorina looks like she belongs on the main stage. interestingly enough, the way cnn did this is that rand paul and chris christie are both keeping a spot on the main stage, even if you adopt the fiorina rules, the top ten in policy after the first debate, just august a...