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Consequence tao constitutional logic. i do not lose any sleep with the fact he made this ruling. >> and it protected people with pre-existing conditions, and people who live with their parents can have insurance until they are 26 years, and the list goes on. when you wrote the law, when you guys crafted obamacare, you did believe the individual mandate to be extremely important, correct? >> that's correct. we thought the individual mandate was going to be very important to convincing people that they had to buy health insurance, and we did say it was essential. on the other hand, one of the th...

Of our presidents, and we live in a great country where comedians are allowed to make fun of our presidents, and that's one of the things that makes america great. >> yeah, and i mean, they have been giving it to both sides for decades, as you know. i think there's an expression that they probably use over at "snl" that are two words if they can't get the joke, and the president doesn't seem to get the joke anymore when it comes to "snl." >> we won't say those words, if they are what i am imagining. thank you gentlemen, very much. over the weekend a federal judge threw out obamacare. he said...

Ruling. the main logic is the mandate is so essential to the law that nothing in the law can stand without the mandate. the reason you know it's a silly ruling is we have not had a mandate with any enforceability since we passed the tax law because there's no penalty anymore and much of the law is going forward, laws like changing how doctors are being paid and improving the quality in hospitals, and investing in better workforce for the health care system. i like to say to my students the affordable care act is 906 pages long, and the enrollment is less than part of that, and there's plenty o...

And individual mandate should fall. >> bill: what do you do with 130 million americans with pre-existing conditions? and how do you manage that from a practical standpoint and a political standpoint, too? >> well look, the first issue here is what congress did constitutional and the answer is no. once we resolve that question and realize that obamacare is unconstitutional we have to have a solution. what i would suggest, which i think has worked over and over, is let the states resolve this. let each state decide what's best for their citizens. this experiment of democracy where the states get...

Administration. the problem right now for barack obama is that i think a lot of this is so personal. he still is -- you can see he is irritated by the birther conspiracy. by the fact that president trump continued to endorse it directly, indirectly for so long. what you see is not only a party position but i think the personal reaction. >> bill: the big news is that the battle has been joined and you'll see the two heavy weights go at it for 50 some odd days now. thank you all. you mentioned obamacare. another big challenge in a courtroom that you'll see in a moment. 20 states trying to succee...