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Other sources of legitimacy? do they scratch the national stitch? and there are those that are legitimately worried. we see the stuff going on with the islands much that's a possibility. that's a place to watch. that's all i can say. that's a legitimate concern. >> let's jum topp to greece real quick. you have to break a tie for us. harold thinks there will be a deal by sunday. katty is more skeptical. what do you i >> all along i'm on the optimistic side. now all the people that work with me are going the other way. you keep looking at i. you can't believe there won't be a deal simply because...

When they come full force beginning october 1. >> senator tim kaine, always good to you have with us sir. >> good to be back. >> let's turn to iran. officials have once again extended the deadline to reach a potentially historic nuclear deal with tehran. now with the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, congressman ed royce. thank you for being with us. >> good to be with you. >> there are a lot of people who lamented these continued extensions of the deadline. we passed another one again yesterday. but you said what's the rush? let's take our time to get this right. >> yeah, exact...

Shown. towards the rest of europe. i don't know. i just don't know. how does he do that politically? >> you know the greeks have a case to make. germany hasn't paid the debts. they had debts and very good piece of "the new york times" about this. germany has had written off since the second world war. the photos of the precise thing that are making the rounds at the internet at the moment. and when countries have their debt written off, they get into a growth spirt. so they have a case to make. i it this europeans are really fed up with them. >> i agree. >> let's move to politics. >> let's mov...

That? >> i don't think it's the end of the euro zone. i think it's the end of greek participation in the euro zone. i don't think it's the end of the euro zone. the next test would be spain or portugal. i think there will be lots of efforts to keep that in. greece itself is what less than 3% i think of the gdp of europe. i think it's pretty containable. that is the calculation of the europeans and the germans. they actually think it may be sala torey. they think by making an example of greece putting it in the penalty box it may help bolster the discipline of the rest of the euro zone. >> all ...

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