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A good choice. >> that's the other question about addleson. we're in this era of billionairs who can prop up kpanz single handedly. the psychology becomes the thing. did he walk away from the experience of backing gingrich did he learn something from that campaign he's going to apply to 2016? >> i talked to a donor last year when another round of candidates came out. i asked him that question. he says sheldon has matured a little bit. you look around the guy sin his 80s now. he has made his $40 billion fortune by bucking conventional wisdom. he doesn't like to be told you should think about a ...

>> it's comforting to know you can still mature when you're in your 80s. >> something we should hopefully have as much money when we're 80. on the money front, the other big name when it comes to republicans and billionairs, the koch brothers. david koch making news. this is "new york times" earlier in the week seeming to suggest the koch brothers are ready to support scotts walker. >> when i talked to the kochs after he came out at that fundraiser they walked that back. they didn't want that out there i think the reason is the kochs' power comes from their convenability. they bring around don...