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For the lowered tax rates isn't saying specifically what programs they will cut. do they both need to put more beef on the agenda. >> i think they are wrong about what the president needs to do. >> chris: you think carville is wrong? >> they are starting to articulate this is about romn y romney. does romney have really any policies that differ from the bush policies. the policies that failed the country and this is the argument they want to make in terms of there was a reason people went to obama in the first place. a reason they wanted reform. >> chris: joe in 2010 that was the argument that...

Didn't convince arizona governor jan brewer. time for the sunday panel. well, here is a quick outline of the president's policy as he announced it on friday. the administration will stop deporting illegals between the ages of 16-30 to qualify they must be in the u.s. at least five years. no criminal history. have gone to high school or sevenned in the military and get renewable two year work permits. bill, what do you think of the policy and the fact that the president went around congress and did this by executive action? >> i think it is a sensible policy. i think it would be better if that ...

Hispanic community. no matter what it will be overridden by jobs and the economy which is a bigger iss e issue. >> chris: 30 seconds left bill. put pressure on romney to sign on to marco rubio's idea of a modified dream act. >> this is the antirubio enis enishtive by the administrati n administration. senator marco rubio is about to introduce his version of a dream act. it would have been closer to what president obama announced than the actual dream act. it got saled. not every republican was onboard. the romney campaign has been cautious about it 86 think this is a big problem for criminal b...

Governor romney was clear he would veto the dream act. clear not just for the hispanic community but for the american people at large. >> chris: the president gave an economic speech in ohio in which he called for targeted investments in energy and education and state workers, first responders and teachers and tax hikes for the wealthy but there was forgive me nothing new. is that the president's agenda for the next four years, pass the jobs plan that i have been pushing for over the last 12 months, and that will fix the economy? >> what the president laid out is a clear choice facing the amer...

The attack in 2010 the attack just gone back to the bush policies didn't work because people wanted the republican house to stop barack obama from doing any more damage. you can't elect mitt romney entirely to stop barack obama from doing more damage. one good effect would be to stop barack obama from doing more damage. i think mitt romney has to have a forward looking vision. otherwise i'm nervous about how the race plays out. >> chris: juan? >> all the -- they say he has to put more meat on the bone. the president framing the alternative and saying clearly if you ask mitt romney about what a...