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Not a lot of new ideas from either. can they both stick with the basic philosophical disagreement about the size and role of government. is that enough to run on between now and november? >> enough for most of that ti e time. you are right. president obama's problem is if he has something specific embodied in the five proposeals he laid out last september that really don't if they were enough to change the narrative in his direction they would have changed it long before. romney has a different problem. a speech on entitlements and tax reform but he needs to give more sum and substance. the go...

These are his ideas and then you say how are you going to pay for the tax cuts? he doesn't lay it out and say here is exactly the programs that i would cut. instead he embraces the paul ryan plan and that puts in play fears that many people have that he would disassemble medicare and medicaid. this is dangerous stuff and i think if the president pursues that aggressively he has a chance to create and define mitt romney early and not make this a referendum on barack obama's performance but make it a contest in which people say you know what the alternative is unacceptable. >> chris: karl i'm wo...

Infrastructure and education et cetera or are you going to go for this guy from bain capital who wants more tax cuts from the rich and do the things that got us into this mess. i think that is what this forward path thing is about and i think the president's campaign is starting to articulate that in a powerful way. he has had a bad month and he has i think they really are g t getting to the message that could win this election. >> chris: bill? >> i have to agree with that in a sense. there will be a debate about the two paths forward. i think president obama fairly effectively began to lay th...

Against iran's nuclear program. here are some of the people quoted in the article. national security advisor tom donnelley. former white house chief of staff bill daly. members of the president's national security team in meetings with him in the situation room. and the president has no idea who divulged these secrets? >> listen, leaders in our administration, of course, they are going to talk about the president's strategic approach to keeping this country safe. or foreign policy. but to suggest somehow that the people that he relies on for advice every day would leak information like this is...

And that is why the justice department ought to get to the bottom of this. >> chris: let me follow with you on this general hayden because you have been in the situation room. how closely held is this kind of information? we are talking about sources and methods and talking about agents that we had in those countries. we are talking about major campaign against iran. how closely held is the information and do people just leave the room and go out on their own and leak this kind of information? >> well, they shouldn't certa n certainly. and this is very closely held information. without comment...