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Their family members. i don't think that's anybody's interest in doing that. the second issue, i don't know how washington d.c. has forgotten that compromise is actually a win/win solution. there's no such thing as a win/lose agreement. and when i was in the private sector negotiating deals, you got to make sure both sides get something out of it. it's -- it's actually figuring out what we agree on. way more unites us than divides us. we like to focus on that 20% that divides us. but there's so much more that actually unites us. that's where we can find compromise and get things done. that's w...

Up to stratospheric costs. this conversation was all about finding a win/win solution that saves the job of the blue collar working class refinery workers. at the same time, helps corn farmers sell even more corn. i think there is a win/win solution. we had a very productive meeting. >> dana: was there conversation about the potential government shutdown? >> we did not get into that. we were focused on saving the jobs for these refinery workers. the group agreed to reconvene next week and expand the group an work together to find a win win that is a win for blue collar workers, a win for jobs,...

White house draw a line in the sand. is this something -- is that the type of campaign promise that the president should be comfortable shutting down the government over. >> there are times like these when we americans can come together and i think there's a win win solution for everybody. all those confederate statues that they're taking down, you can use those to build a wall. >> you are being facetious, right. okay. not everybody knows your sense of humor. >> i think that's a fundamental promise. i think that is a fundamental promise. the question is whether trump's allies in congress will ...

And not really on legal terms. >> from the very beginning of this case, in fact, even before she was sued, kim davis has always requested the simple accommodation that would include taking her name and her title off of these licenses that violate her conscience. her position hasn't changed. her position will not be changed by six days of incarceration. >> it sounds like when she goes back to work she is not going to allow the deputies to sign the marriage licenses and the judge -- it will be back on the judge's table and will have to decide whether or not she goes back to jail. >> time will te...

Doesn't place undue burdens on the employer. another way of phrasing that is it has to be a compelling government interest that's being pursued in the least restrictive way possible. so each and every one of these cases would have to be looked at individually, but i hope we would all want to work together to find a solution that really is a win-win solution where both sides can be accommodated and we can move forward peacefully. otherwise we're just going to perpetuate a culture war on this issue. why do we want to repeat that? why can't we find a way forward to live side by side even while di...