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then you and then change topics. >> one thing you mentioned is, sorry, you said the united states will continue -- sorry, the united states will continue to impose costs on wagner or its successor. is there any indication right now that wagner is actually standing up a successor organization? >> i think i said or successor if any. we have noted the announcements by the ministry of defense that wagner forces are supposed to be absorbed into the ministry of defense. we don't have any assessment of what will happen to the wagner group, either in ukraine or elsewhere and the world, but w...

he called the country a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. that is ever truer at this moment. president biden came out a short time ago to deny that there was any u.s. involvement in the attempted coup over the weekend. >> we gave putin no excuse to blame this on the west or nato. we made clear that we were not involved. we had nothing to do with it. this is part of a struggle within the russian system. >> martha: whatever will happen next, we know that this is just the beginning. there will be shifts that come in this very volatile situation. it could change ultimately th...