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But i do believe we have to be worried about a false sense of security. we know how bad this bill is. after all, only 17% of the american people thought the original house bill was a good one, and they made it even worse. so on the one hand, we might get lulled into this false sense of security that republican senators will never act on it. on the other hand, pressure will build on a lot of them to do something. and i worry a little bit about what we saw happen to fred upton, right? fred upton came out against the bill. he got a lot of backlash. and then he came out with sort of a face-saving ...

Mitch mcconnell doesn't just engineer this so that a few republican senators get some window dressing changes and send it back. so bottom line, it's really important that everybody turn out to all the town hall meetings now, just as they did before. >> so senator, i want to take you back to your house experience, you're an expert on this. and what you just mentioned with congressman upton, he is in a position when he is asked to cast that vote, as we said, the first inning of this exercise. it's a less pressurized vote at that point because it's so much more distant from actually becoming law....