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Here, i think, the key question -- what, if anything, is the relationship between the quality of life offenses and the more serious crime? >> well, there is some relationship. how much, i mean, is always subject to debate, but certainly, i think it goes back to the old broken window theory if you start dealing with disorder type issues, you can lessen future crime in terms of violent crime and other types of behavior like that. you know, i don't know how much of an impact this is going to have here in philadelphia. as far as the police are concerned. but it will have an impact on community. th...

American city. he is a socialist, he wants to run everybody out of san francisco and rebuild as a socialist utopia. that is what is going on. >> katie: is that not all ready? >> jesse: do you think this is good? i think even liberals are going to start moving out. >> juan: jesse has set me up. i don't know what to say to that. >> dana: this is what i don't understand, is there no idea or innovation that could bridge the broken window theory with the desire to not throw as many people in jail for minor infractions? is there really no idea out there? the experimentation should start in the citie...

Look, i think this is a situation where the president has browbeaten the fed to the point where they will cut under pressure. not everybody will agree with that, but i believe that's true because with an economy that's so strong, i just don't believe there's a need for a cut. we're taking antibiotics here before we're even sick. it's a waste of our ammunition. neil: i agree with that. what do you think >> i like the parallel. it really does feel like -- it is like a broken window theory here. neil: you're just jealous because you used the apple to apple thing. he used the antibiotic. >> i like...

French quarter. >> you think it's -- >> i don't think, i know. i mean, working with the state police, working with our force, i know. i get realtime data. i created this app myself. i drew it on a napkin. bourbon street, royal street, the cross streets, aggressive solicitation, prostitution. all the things the broken window theory you want to address it before it gets worse. our response time is between four to eight minutes. it's unbelievable what we've done in four months. >> what about the concern that, yes, to your point the numbers are improving in the french quarter but what about other ...

Not just the city of baltimore, but around the country in urban areas. >> this raises so many questions about the broken windows theory versus zero tolerance, which are two different things. the coop for the broken windows theory said it was never intended to be zero toll raps. and what we're seeing in this arrest is you see approach to freddie gray is something sounding like zero tolerance, meaning there was virtually no reason no probable cause to arrest him based on what the police had seen. and this was something -- they didn't see a broken window. and they still went into this mode. >> wh...