american city. he is a socialist, he wants to run everybody out of san francisco and rebuild as a socialist utopia. that is what is going on. >> katie: is that not all ready? >> jesse: do you think this is good? i think even liberals are going to start moving out. >> juan: jesse has set me up. i don't know what to say to that. >> dana: this is what i don't understand, is there no idea or innovation that could bridge the broken window theory with the desire to not throw as many people in jail for minor infractions? is there really no idea out there? the experimentation should start in the cities and the states. his only answer is we are just now going to worry about it? they've done that here in new york. not good, and it's not pleasant to walk by. i don't want anybody to have a situation where they need to go and they can go and feel that they can have a hygienic situation an end also one that allows them to have their dignity. but i also kind of resent