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To him go easy on flynn or anything about flynn. he's saying that i'm talking about their alternative. i'm saying, the conversation never took place. but if it did take place and here's the conversation that's alleged, it is not illegal to have said that. that's what i'm saying, we call it arguing in the alternative. >> it was a little confusing i suppose. >> i appreciate that but i've been asked a question numerous times, that's the answer. if i confused it, i'm sorry. >> i do want to ask you one question about one of your nemesis, michael avenatti -- >> who? >> michael avenat tixt, speaking ...

>> wing ding dinner. okay. that sounds like the right place for him to speak. he has every right to do what he wants. i think i would settle the bankruptcy situation where he owes 10 million bucks first but hey, it's up to him. >> there's a history of people with bankruptcies in their past running for president -- >> no, no. >> mayor giuliani. >> cheap shot. cheap shot. >> mayor giuliani, thanks you so much. >> take care, yeah. >> one year after the dead lie riots, president trump is condemning all racism. is that the right message? the man who is governor of virginia at the time will be here ...

At the wing ding dinner at the ohio state fair and seriously considering a run for the white house against president trump. wondering what your thoughts are mr. avenatti running for president. >> speaking at the wing nut -- >> wing ding dinner. >> iowa democratic party. >> wing ding dinner. okay. that sounds like the right place for him to speak. he has every right to do what he wants. i think i would settle the bankruptcy situation where he owes 10 million bucks first but hey, it's up to him. >> there's a history of people with bankruptcies in their past running for president -- >> no, no. >>...

Comcast, building america's largest gig-speed network. in our politics lead, believe it or not, stormy daniels' attorney michael avenatti in iowa at the iowa state fair and then hid lining the wing ding democratic dinner because -- he is considering running for president in 2020. >> i'm here to listen to the great people of iowa explore the fair and figure out if it makes sense to run for the presidency. i'm serious about considering it. i'm not making a decision of what to do. i'll make the decision in the coming weeks. you know? maybe i'm going a bit longer than that. >> talk about it with...

>> she and her camp know, they can read the polls like we have been talking about. they know they have an issue. they know it's not going to go away. they know, however, something that the opponents are going to go crazy over. people get distracted. there's a lot of stuff going on out there. climate change, sex scandals. all kind of things are going to move it off the main agenda. that's why the questioning has been so aggressive. give us an answer, give us an answer. >> scandal sells. you know this very, very well. you are one of the masters of when people stay on point and when they don't fr...