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Going on the air and winging it. what the inverse. you don't go on and say -- harris: who is in charge of messaging? look at dnc for a second. debbie wasserman schultz who was accused choosing side between the two candidates among the democrats. throwing as much shade as she could like a forest toward bernie sanders. and then you have the next, right? meghan: donna brazile. harris: donna brazile potentially giving questions to hillary clinton during critical times of you know, the debates and so on, so forth. if that where your message something coming from, maybe you might want to wing it. th...

Adjectives to describe that, but i was proud to be the first and stick with that through election night. >> ambassador chris hill, he was ambassador through bush, clinton and obama, he said about the call with taiwan. >> obviously it was an example of what is all too often happening now with this incoming administration, this tendency to wing it. >> is that a fair characterization? is the trump team winging it? >> i wouldn't say that. donald trump was a nonconventional candidate. he will be a nonconventional president. i think that's good. he's going to speak to america in a way that hasn't be...

>> i am exhausted. >> these guys are a lot of fun. i want to be old and fun. let me find out what their secret is. >> normally i don't ask people these questions but i feel like here i can ask. how old are you? >> 72. >> you guys don't seem like typical 72-year-old dudes. >> no. up here we're not. >> okay. >> just when we look in the mirror, we go oh! >> who's that guy? >> what happened? >> and we've never been this old before. >> we don't know how to act. we've never been 72. >> it's the first time -- >> oh, that's awesome. you've never been this old before. >> you don't know what to base it ...

Pro what -- >> i want to be your agent. well, maybe not. >> i am exhausted. >> these guys are a lot of fun. i want to be old and fun. let me find out what their secret is. >> normally i don't ask people these questions but i feel like here i can ask. how old are you? >> 72. >> you guys don't seem like typical 72-year-old dudes. >> no. up here we're not. >> lots all the -- >> just when we look in the mirror. we go, oh! >> who's that guy? >> what happened? >> and we've never been this old before. >> we don't know how to act. we've never been 72. >> it's the first time -- >> you've never been thi...

Christopher hill, assistant secretary of state for east asia under george w. bush. should trump have had this conversation with the president of taiwan? >> obviously he should not have. we've had for 40 years rather clear policies how to implement the one china policy. eight years of the reagan administration this never happened. four years of the bush senior administration. eight years of clinton. eight years of george w. bush and eight years of obama. so this is a real break. obviously it was an example of what is all too often happening now with this incoming administration. this tendency t...