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I think is revealed throughout both the papadopoulos situation where he lied during an fbi interview when they warned him that lying is a federal offense, as well as throughout the manafort indictment that indicates lying in a whole host of other contexts. >> nick, what leapt out to you? we can talk about manafort and gates. but i want to talk about papadopoulos. what leapt out to you? >> what leapt out to me is he started cooperating in july. this was kept quiet until today. to me, that says that they had him out there playing dial a crook, calling people with a wiretapped phone, meeting with...

Manafort indictment that indicates lying in a whole host of other contexts. >> nick, what leapt out to you? we can talk about manafort and gates. but i want to talk about papadopoulos. what leapt out to you? >> what leapt out to me is he started cooperating in july. this was kept quiet until today. to me, that says that they had him out there playing dial a crook, calling people with a wiretapped phone, meeting with people, wearing a wire. there are all kinds of people. look how many different campaign officials were mentioned in that information. not by name, but simply by position. and if i ...