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Certainly said it -- that crazy is out. the country is getting sick of crazy politics. extreme candidates, extreme election denier views, threats to topple election monitoring systems, that was out. the more sensible people in the center of the two parties were doing better. now, we have this circus with josh hawley and ted cruz with the most outrageous charges. it's amazing to see probably the most mild mannered person in washington, merrick garland, our attorney general, fending off these almost hysterical claims from republicans. what makes me sad is if it is true that crazy is back, crazy ...

Petition. but right now they're all on the record saying no, that there have to be spending cuts, including the moderate republicans. there have to be spending cuts with the debt ceiling. >> i think we're seeing wish casting, hoping to manifest that's the end result here. you can't make that gamble if you're them at this point. instead, you have moderate republicans who are saying they're not going to vote for this if there aren't spending cuts. john boehner in the 2011 negotiations he was able to get spending cuts that were thought to be a large -- at the time, maybe in hindsight republicans ...

So, what you saw when he was campaigning in the midterms, was he was trying to talk forward, talk past, talk about the future of the party, and he just can't. he is such a seminal figure in this historic attack on the capitol. in an attempt to overturn the election. so, i think, when we talk with republicans who are not either former pence aides, or not part of his team, they don't get sucked into this like this wish casting that they have around pence, and his people, in january. you either take it ahead, or you don't. there really is no tightrope to walk here for him. you just kind of pick o...

The west wing and veep as we come together for a special live streamed fundraisernd "veei laura , i watched some of this so you didn't have to. the highlight was julia louis-dreyfus invoking a certain supreme court justicee who she claimed watched her show . e clai she claimed that justice's namen was antonin scalia. toshe meant antonin scalia.antoi but wen won't correct. this was you know, i think for certain audiences, these showsss have a luster, its wish casting for them. but i don't think thes, but ei ' celebritt y endorsements reallyw matter a whole lot.ho >> no, hillary, didn't she have...

States. so, john, i will start with you. i listened to our podcast. i read your columns. i know you have been bullish on republican prospects in this next midterm elections. are you starting to feel any doubt about that? >> no. i think this is all wish casting. i think we haven't even discussed the issue that is going against biden. we haven't discussed the fact that 78 to 88% of the american people say we are on the wrong track we've got inflation, as a major political issue for the first time in 40 years. and one key thing to think about inflation is this. when you have a high unemployment n...