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The latest enjoins us right now. he was in the thick of all of this and then trying to deal with people who are stuck after this, chris, what can you tell us? >> i will just tell you it is something you never see again. u.s. he turned it on drop right in front of you an open field and you see it rolling straight for town. as a small tornado it instantly becomes nearly a mile wide tornado. it's something you never want to see it's on the worst-case scenarios that you can see as a storm chaser. when you are one of the persons into a town, you are the first responder most times. he ate what did y...

Government to acknowledge these organizations are what they are that's exactly what they are is terrorist organizations. so again i'm a big advocate for it. i know it will be very beneficial to our state into the entire country we need to go after these organizations win to take action now, now that we have the momentum on our side we need to go after them and stop the illicit drugs from coming across killing americans at record level. it chris, while i have you or aware the president was in canada with prime minister among the many things they discussed was tightening the border, the northern...

Weren't. two of the five defendants were found guilty of seditious conspiracy, three of them were found not guilty, all of them were found guilty of obstruction of an official proceeding. there is a mix of different ways that this can be approached legally, and this one jury looking at this one polis of evidence came to a very complex conclusion in terms of what these people are actually guilty of. that's important in terms of thinking that this is some sort of slam dunk. we'll see that matrix like response from the jury holds for the next two seditious conspiracy trials as well. i think the o...

Before the hers. it's left of boom, boom being the moment of attack, left of boom being a moment on its timeline sometime before the attack. that's the goal, that's what happened in my case. so the defense could be this was never really a conspiracy, this was just tough talk, a bunch of guys saying tough things. when the attack actually comes to fruition though as it came to this oath keeper case, you can't really say this was just tough talk, because the plan actually manifested itself. so i think for that reason it will be very difficult for them to say there was no agreement to attack when ...

And these are, again, small children who can't to evacuate themselves. they can't protect themselves. you have to go in. if you can't do that you shouldn't be a law enforcement officer. i hate to make a harsh judgment like that, but that's where we are. parkland was a case in point. i thought we had learned something from that. perhaps not. >> well, you have to make the judgment the way you see it, and this is the way you see, it chris. thank you for coming on. >> thank you. >> 21 people dead, 19 of them children. the nra is convening their annual meeting just days later in the same state. sta...