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The people that work for the senator, and the people that work with the senator, and the people that care about the senator, it is time to tel them that it is time for her t go. it is just that simple look, we have all got agin grandparents and we have all got aging parents who have t relinquish certain responsibilities. the senato has had a long storied caree stretching decades, but we are now at the end of it >> schumer and senate democrats, as i mentioned there, they may need some help, they may nee to negotiate but the republicans about replacing -- some republicans like norm dakota, senat...

>> to give no money for a fence. >> no, she's saying i'm not giving 5 point whatever billion. they had a deal, let's call wit schumer and pence. not really a deal. nobody is allowed to negotiate except the president because he went bad on that deal and anything else he didn't like at the moment. >> a fence or a wall. >> i am told that is not accurate. there is money that can go for ballard fencing. what they don't want is the amount and to reward the president for a farcic am promise. let's see if we can agree on facts here. there was a big part of the promise which is who was going to pay for...

Because i don't think that gets you where you want to go politically. i think that facing down the congress and getting nancy pelosi to come together and to get a deal, he's a deal maker. he should put a deal on the table and if nancy pelosi does what she did yesterday is say no money, absolutely under no circumstances. she's in an untenable position. you can't continue to say i won't give anything when even members of her party say fencing is an integral part of this whole border security. >> she's not saying i won't give you anything. let's turn to the facts. >> to give no money for a fence....

Last week there was a poll by suffolk for "u.s.a. today" about 42, 43% say the blame for the shut down would fall on the president. 30 percent said it would fall on both parties 20 odd percent said it would fall on democrats. everybody is going to walk away from this tarnished. washington is going to look more dysfunctional and look like it can't get its act together. the president is going toned up, i think, being blamed more in part because as we saw in that exchange in the oval office he said i own iting, i will be proud to do it. >> he did. we have seen fences work. we have seen border wal...

Maybe they are trying to shed that altogether. >> juan: you have a lot of people. go back to what happened with conor lamb or doug jones in alabama. i don't think you say any of them, although they are successful and ran as democrats and states that were dominated by donald trump or districts dominated by donald trump. these are folks who one man. you're looking for new models. if he becomes my mind, goes back to the last time we had a first-term president going toe midterms, that's barack obama in 2010. there was a terrible, large red wave that swept over -- >> dana: terrible? >> juan: terrib...