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The blended interest rate was 6%. now the accumulated debt is $20 trillion. the blended interest rate is a little over two. >> neil: you mentioned blended interest rates. they're now in the flat wave that they all seem to press a potential slow down. you buy that? >> yeah, the point is we tripled our debt and our debt service has gone up about 30%. >> neil: you don't see the factors that normally telegraph problems? >> i don't see any of the factors that would bring on a recession. and the market usually anticipates the recession. i don't see another recession before 2021. >> this rally, the m...

Not have standing. what does that mean in english? they don't have a proper legal basis to bring forth the suit because they were not personally impacted or affected. under the new rules -- >> sorry, back it up, because they're older, they can't possibly have been impacted? they wouldn't have just been enduring years and years and years before they finally broke? >> you don't expect me to support the old version, do you? i'm not going to defend the court's decision. >> i would be a 46-year-old -- >> essentially, it has to do withstanding. when it relates to standing, all that means is you have...