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They have to get to the bottom of some of these allegations whether or not people in his campaign and icircle were in touch with the members and surrogates. richard quest is with us as well. how do you think the president-elect handled the entire issue of his business relationship. he is trying to walk away from potential conflicts of interest, specially when it comes to foreign ties to the trump organization. did he meet the bottom line basic standards required? >> no. that's not my verdict. that's the verdict of the head of the office of government ethics who has described the trump plan to ...

Have moral clarity and be clear about what you are saying around the world and in marco rubio's views. mr. tillerson was not clear on some of those key questions. so i asked him if he will vote against him. he has not made that decision yet. wolf, if he does vote against him, that could mean he will get enough votes to prevent him from getting on a committee. we will see if that happens. significant that marco rubio has not made a decision on what to do for mr. tillerson. >> we'll see how all the ten democrats and 11 republicans, see if all the democrats were united against tillerson. that's a...

Really in the question of republican hands. >> senator bob menendez, from new jersey, thanks for being with us. >> let's bring in our senior political reporter, manu raju. you just spoke to senator rubio. what did he say about rex tillerson, why he is not yet ready to announce he will vote to confirm his nomination? >> reporter: well, wolf, he was not happy with mr. tillerson's answers on some key questions, namely on russia. of course, marco rubio has taken a rather hard line on russia. he does not believe that vladmir putin is a friend or ally. rex tillerson has had a close personal relation...

Number of other questions, including on china, what about china, one of the worst human rights abuseers in the world, he would not say that either. he said, it is just a bad human rights abuser. he would not say he would go as far as saying they were one of the worst in the world. there were a number of questions on imposing stiffer sanctions on russia. tillerson would not go he where marco rubio wanted him to go in emerging from this hearing just moments ago. i asked him, are you prepared to be the one republican to vote against mr. tillerson in this committee in the matter of a week or so? t...

Tillerson as the next secretary of state? >> i am not stunned at all, wolf. marco is a very thoughtful person, has legitimate concerns. he is going to attempt to saturdays. >> phi himsesatisfy himself and go from there. >> i thought he had a great hearing. he looked like a secretary of state. he sounded like a secretary of state. he handled himself, i thought, very, very well. >> tillerson seems much more inclined based on his answers at the hearing to intervene in world affairs, for example, than trump. can he truly speak for the president to u.s. allies, adversaries? he also said in response...