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Thinking in that moment but revealing the truth of the situation which is he said i'm headed to this district to throw my support behind rick saccone. he focused on the tax policy and tax bill and praised rick saccone on the tour and gave him a brief shoutout but didn't have the trademarks you would expect from a campaign rally. was it too cute? yes. was it actually a campaign rally, not necessarily. >> you were with mostly folks from the white house. i don't mean for this to sound inane but how does it feel to be around them these days post wolf book, mid russia scandal and with a looming pos...

Saccone on the tour and gave him a brief shoutout but didn't have the trademarks you would expect from a campaign rally. was it too cute? ye yes. was it actually a campaign rally, not necessarily. >> you were with mostly folks from the white house. i don't mean for this to sound inane but how does it feel to be around them these days post wolf book, mid russia scandal and with a looming possible shut down a down and showdown tomorrow night? >> sure, one thing i've been hear income my reporting from people inside the white house and in phone calls, more so than the press pin today is that p r m...

>> they have 401(k)s and -- >> right. we have a very low unemployment rate. you would think a president should be in the '60s and owe 7 ohs after the first year but he's not. he's in the '40s so he's not going to be an asset in a lot of these races. in some of the races, he will. in a lot of the red states he'll be an asset. and to make the difference, he won't be. and historically, history is against him. normally when the president has power it's in the white house and the other team wins seats. >> and part of this is his liability, of course, is the conversation that we've been having about...

Convictions and indictments. >> right. >> plural. >> that are coming. >> yeah. it certainly looks -- >> that are coming. >> it certainly looks like they'd be coming. bob costa, you've certainly been reporting on this white house from the very beginning, and you've certainly heard the concerns around the president and whether the president's fit to be actually in the office from republicans and people that work around him. i just wonder what your take is on the wolf book and how it plays into this much bigger debate about the president's fitness and what type of white house he's running. >> wit...

Whenever anyone criticizes the legal parameters, there's an idea that it's about partisanship and issues. it's worthwhile to criticize the president and his actions without having to think about partisan, the hillary rallies have no relevance here, what does have relevance, there was a plan set into motion by the president's own conduct. it's not about whether he had the prerogative to do so. it's whether it was legally prudent and would signal to the rest of the people in america, under the court of public opinion, that he had something to hide and had nefarious intent. >> doesn't this raise ...