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the minister of humanitarian affairs told journalists that more than 1.3 million people had been displaced in the worst now on bbc news, it's hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i'm stephen sackur. in the increasingly overt struggle between western liberal democracy and authoritarianism, hong kong's position is unique. it is chinese sovereign territory granted special autonomous status under a handover deal done with britain. many hong kongers hoped that deal would guarantee theirfreedoms, but those hopes have been crushed. my guest is ted hui, a hong kong pro—democracy politician exile...

my guest is ted hui, a hong kong pro—democracy politician exiled in australia and convicted in absentia by a hong kong court. has beijing neutralised hong kong's dissenters? thank you. my pleasure to talk to you. you, of course, arejoining me from australia because you fled from your home, from hong kong, in late 2021, and you said you left with a very heavy heart. did you also leave with a sense of defeat? i don't, because... it's common that people might think that way. it's like an escapist guilt. but as long as i'm still fighting, as long as i'm still speaking up for hong kong'...

And spreading threats, military threats, and the taking away of freedoms in hong kong and taiwan. the general public�*s feelings... i don't think with that background, the new government can get very close to china, even if it wants a more close, closer economic relationship with china, morejob opportunities, more trade. i think there's no going back when china is still like a wolf warrior diplomatically... well, the thing is, at the very beginning of this interview, you said you didn't feel defeated and the fight continues and you're determined to win it. but how do you feel? leave aside au...