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Meetings with members of the media that have been off the record. that's not a problem. the problem would only be if it wasn't in conjunction with some significant amounts of on-the-record and i was glad to see "new york times" reporters were tweeting away. >> i remember being in washington on election week and i was talking to different members of the white house correspondent's association and even then they were furious because the press wasn't part of the motorcade to taking trump to the oval office to meet with the president and there were all kinds of -- it was like a waterfall of concer...

Looking to your uber driver for knowledge on the matter to quote on cnn? >> a lot of times when you basically look at people on the street, that's essentially who voted in the middle of the country. i was kind of thinking it's the same way but at the same time it is telling to tell your audience because trump may be possibly positioning himself for a possible presidential pardon and that is about trying to get to the peace after the election. i think the trump presidency will be extremely distracted going into large amounts of disturbing the club of presidents. the club of presidential candida...

Who doesn't have it. >> i think a lot of people, oliver, if i may jump in, on jobs and infrastructure and economy, that was on the minds of so many people, especially those i know who voted for him but what i'm specifically asking you about, not only potentially not standing by calling on a special prosecutor to prosecute hillary clinton but softening on climate change and other issues coming out of this "new york times" meeting. are you still a full throated donald trump supporter ? >> absolutely. i've been on the record as saying this election was not about change, it was about enough and es...

>> i don't think so. because all the small businesses i talk to and, in fact, in all the surveys, one of their number one concerns is access to affordable health care. and in 2014, we're going to have exchanges. so imagine that instead of begging a broker for a quote on your insurance, you can go to a marketplace and have people bid on your business. this is one of the fundamental things that people are getting excited about as these exchanges are coming up. >> well, but we do hear from business owners, i'm sure you do too, that are now contemplating after the election, i started certainly hea...

Not the final puppet. it's a prototype. >> hello, want to talk politics because this is the place for politics. >> what's the spitting image -- >> willie, go to politico. >> i'm tired. >> chief white house correspondent for politico -- is mike allen. he has a look at the play book. mike, please save us this morning. >> it was in his pants. >> oh, my gosh. >> cut the mike over here and lock in on mike allen. you guys -- you got the first sit down post election interview with obama campaign manager jim mess siena, a guy called a genius after the way the obama campaign won the election. he talked...