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Getting more credit for the wisdom that comes with age. >> one thing i find is really interesting and i'm interested in the political people's view on this, donald trump is no spring chicken either. he's four years younger than joe biden, exactly four years. yet, you never hear people say trump is too old. i don't know why that is. i don't know if he's just projects this sort of manic energy or i don't know why. it's something else. >> i think donald trump when he was asked about this question he said it's not about the number, it is about how you present. it is about how with it you are in ma...

Or psychiatry for further evaluation but that hasn't happened. >> he did have a neurological exam. >> primary care, by a primary care physician. not a neurologist. >> not deep enough. president biden does have word finding difficulties. he does. i mean, any time you hear him in a speech he does -- i don't know if that's his stutter or if that's the prompter. he does and as you know his critics seize on that so just him getting a clean bill of health won't stop them from seizing on that. >> no, but, i mean, that's been a hallmark of who he has been publicly for decades now. he's someone who has...

Because there is a question about whether or not he was having word finding difficulties because of his auditory processing, or if he is struggling really with cognition. which you know, would obviously affect the job. so what is the answer? >> i think that you don't ask the question, are you having a problem with this, or are you cognitively competent? i think what you do is you go to situations when he has proven himself to be completely cognitively competent in a situation that really allowed for him to take the extra time that he needed to be able to consider, in order to give a responsibl...

Very different from five years ago politics versus ten years ago politics. there is a new -- not just anxiety but level of hostility that comes in. we as human beings are feeling creatures who think. information comes in through all of our sensory systems. this is what john fetterman was up against. information coming in through all of the sensory systems. it processes through our emotional systems, and then it moves into our thinking circuitry. so thinking takes time, and we all think as normal brains. some of us think more quickly than others. in a brain that is processing quickly isn't nece...

Know someone who has a stroke. i think that's all part of their calculus. but pennsylvania is a very close state. i think this race is closer than maybe some of the polls might imply, and the more that oz kind of pressures fetterman on this, the more that oz is out there on the trail, it could be a tough thing to run away from for fetterman. >> yeah, and in fact, i was wondering about that. is fetterman rejecting the debate because he thinks that oz has been nasty about his health, or because he is having word-finding difficulties and auditory processing difficulties after his stroke? >> the c...