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Say okay, let's do the money thing. you get the money thing, governor, but collective bargaining has got to be off the table. and the governor proved today to these protesters it is not about the money, it is about breaking down the unions. i have to take issue with what senator grossman says, he says it is about the work rules. all of those things are gotiated and that's all the employees want of this state. now, the total number of employees this would affect in the state is 175,000. i don't know for sure how many of those other employees outside the 23,000 would go along and say we'll take ...

Choice. why is this so necessary? >> for us, we're broke, just like nearly have state across the country. >> reporter: just as republicans prepared to pass the bill, key democrats left the state to stall the vote. capitol police were looking for them. >> we hope that we are in a place that we'd be hard for them to find. >> reporter: what really upset state workers is a budget that strips away nearly all of their union bargaining rights over health care, pension and work rules. any wage increase beyond cost of living would require a state referendum. they blame the governor. do you think he's t...

Creativity and innovation. that's what work rules are about. it's a fight that should be taken on at this point. >> if they don't do it, i hate to go back to gm again. gm workers had the same dilemma. they were promised these things. in the end that's basically what bankrupted that company these unfunded pension and health care liabilities at gm. they were overwhelming the basic business of gm. you can choose to confront it or not but you'll have to pay the piper at some point. >> we'll be following this in the hours and days ahead. thank you both for your tag team insights today. coming up he...

Go to illinois where there's $5 billion in arrears. these states are broken. we need to be more fiscally sponges fr responsible. not just at the state level but federal level. >> let me ask you. one thought i had is that if it was just about the health and pension adjustments which democratic governors are pursuing in other states i get the feeling that this wouldn't have been viewed as a total war. going after the collective bargaining power which is what scott walk terrify republican governor has done, really seems to have called forth, really the total war response. >> i think it's about ti...

Breast feed. we are talking about a problem that is specifically in the black communities. so for you to change federal law and i.r.s. regulations and start forcing businesses to make acome daightss for nursing women at their own expense to promote it in the black community is the problem i have with it. this is the nanny stayed on steroids. megyn: she made reference to a separate thing under the healthcare reform act more and more businesses are required to give nursing mothers private space where they can express milk. the first lady and the i.r.s. have made efforts to facilitate breast feed...