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He's saying that the president's argument is because there's no collusion, therefore, it would be unlikely that he would even need to be interviewed. does that make sense? >> no, because there are. >> as i said, there are the three work streams. one is the financial crime thing, that has nothing to do with collusion per say. that's money laundering and other illegal activities, ala manafort. then there's obstruction. that has nothing to do with collusion either. did you intend to conduct collusion. he may have some latitude of what the parameters are, but he can't avoid it. >> to point out fro...

>> there are three broad streams that mueller has under inquiry. one is financial crimes, that may be the activities that relate to the donald trump/kushner ecosystem of business and they're dealings with russian oligarchs and organized crime. the second is conspiracy. we call it collusion, but it's conspiracy to defraud the federal election commission or to violate the computer fraud and abuse act, or receiving stolen property styled offenses. and the last is obstruction of justice. those are the three streams in broad terms mueller has ongoing. the mantra of no collusion is of no relevance t...