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Off, say, hey, supplied the medical documents, if the documents shook out, then fine. if the documents don't check out, then count it as-ification. there are ways from a business model where you can make this structurally work with efficiency and also hold workers accountable, but also employers should be held and countable on this. as it pertains to the president, i think a guy is doing the best we possibly can. if i was advising him, i would say to the president, look, i know people won't be happy with this, but god knows we cannot push this economy into recession. if we do, millions of peop...

Fighting for worker paid sick leave. what do you make of his final decision here? >> look, ayman, again, i think the president looked at the bigger picture, that is to say, the economy. people have been struggling for the past two and a half to three years now. again, massive disruption, and it would lead to a recession. i think what jonathan was saying, as it pertains to the current business model, these rogue lines did -- i think you should give your workers the benefit of the doubt. if a person takes a sick day off, say, hey, supplied the medical documents, if the documents shook out, then ...