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Yeah. now, you didn't do a sitting with herfor that? i've done three of the queen now, and none of them have been official. i know you are a very great royalist. as you've said, you're a working class kid who reached the top of the art world and you became, i think, quite familiar with the royals. you met, ithink, prince charles several times. i guess what i'm getting to is whether you've become a bit of an insider? you began by perhaps being seen as something of a rebel, launching a movement in the late �*50s and �*60s in the art world in britain, and you've ended up being a bit of an est...

Successful. >> i was a working class kid, i remember it. >> brian cox here on the program with us, i don't think anybody could accuse him of being an elitist, but he was quoted in "the new yorker" piece saying about jeremy, "it's the cost to himself that just worries me. i just feel he has to be kind esh to himself and, therefore, has to be a bit kinder to everybody else." it made me wonder if part of the problem for criticisms made of him, for lack of a better phrase, vicious "new yorker" piece, do you think it was the result people just felt he couldn't be approached because he was so distan...

Bathe for the time he was in there? his skin was falling off and he smelled so bad he was apologizing to people who gave him a lift, transported him. my god. that's a horrible story. and one more example of how badly he was used. >> tucker: no one seems to care. i mean, you would think like if the media are supposed to care about the weakest among us. here is a working class kid from wisconsin. you know, but they don't care. >> brit: no a lot of the elite opinion would find someone like kyle rittenhouse beneath their notice except for purposes of contempt. >> tucker: that so distressing. >> it...

The point where he couldn't bathe for the time he was in there? his skin was falling off and he smelled so bad he was apologizing to people who gave him a lift, transported him. my god. that's a horrible story. and one more example of how badly he was used. >> tucker: no one seems to care. i mean, you would think like if the media are supposed to care about the weakest among us. here is a working class kid from wisconsin. you know, but they don't care. >> brit: no a lot of the elite opinion would find someone like kyle rittenhouse beneath their notice except for purposes of contempt. >> tucker...

Movie seemed to suggest. it is all in the editing. and historians know that and journalists know that too. it is what you include and what you don't include. and paul wants his story told the way he saw it. >> look, you interviewed god knows how many people, impressive people over the years and been in the same room with all sorts of people. but paul mccartney is a different type of character, a legend. what was it like for you to get this time with him, to be with him like this? >> well, it was very interesting because on the one hand he's just about the most charming person you would ever me...