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You've got is you have to recognize that hurt people holler, and when people are sitting on a white hot stove, they sometimes make decisions that other people don't understand. frankly, a lot of the young african-americans protesting people they're confused by. so i'm a little bit torn. but what i like about what you're saying is we've almost gotten to the point because we're saying we have to let the white guys -- they can't possibly think past their lunch pail. they can't possibly. we aren't actually going to ask them to stand with everyone else. the problem we have now is the underdogs in t...

Underdogs in the red states and the underdog in the blue states who have a common pain don't have a common purpose and now they're mad at each other. isn't it awful that poor and working class states in the red states and poor and working class states in the blue states are now mad at each other? >> remember, poor and working class is black and white and hispanic. it comes in all colors, and many americans have suffered over the last 20 years, and politicians have not helped them. so they're angry. in a state like michigan -- >> part of what's going on, though, we can have this hi high-minded ...

Diversification between barack obama who is talking about what he is doing like the auto industry bailout, etc. what is mitt romney doing? gloom and doom. that's a perception issue and something people in working class states in ohio and pennsylvania see, feel, understand, and they can feel the pain and we all remember what bill clinton did to connect with people. there is a difference between the two. it's a different vision. >> i want to go to mitt romney and the health care switch. he is being confronted about the penalty versus the tax issue. take a listen. >> the supreme court is the fina...