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>> do you think this -- i need to go to the other folks. is this the reason number one that he said the red line, you're not going to go into my finances because he's afraid of what that people may uncover stories like this. >> don, absolutely, don. if we had his tax returns and the books and records, that's what "the times" got its hands on, 100,000 pages of canceled checks and ledger entries and things. that will absolutely show that donald trump is a world class criminal. >> okay. so walter, one pattern that stands out from "the new york times" story is that the trump parents repeatedly und...

If we had his tax returns and the books and records, that's what the times got its hands on, 100,000 pages of canceled checks and edger entries they will show donald trump is a world class criminal. >> okay. so walter, one pattern that stands out from the story is that the trump parents repeatedly undervalued assets when they passed it on to donald trump and his siblings. the president's attorneys though do insist it was handled bid professionals and that it's totally legal. what do you think about this? >> well, i think that's what's truly amazing is to see the "new york times" go so far as t...