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Do you think the american government is on top of this? do you think the trump administration is sufficiently attentive to it? >> what's interesting about ukraine, we care about protecting the election but ukraine is an important foreign policy priority. if we connect the two, we look at building resilience in the ukraine as a way to protect our own election. ukraine has world class engineering talent and also understands geopolitics just because of where they live, israel being the other example. the problem is civil society doesn't have the technology expertise. all the engineers want to wor...

The deep and dark web. >> when i hear all this, it sounds very difficult to figure out how to counter it. do you think the american government is on top of this? do you think the trump administration is sufficiently attentive to it? >> what's interesting about ukraine, we care about protecting the election but ukraine is an important foreign policy priority. if we connect the two, we look at building resilience in the ukraine as an effective way to protect our own election. ukraine has world class engineering talent and also understands geopolitics just because of where they live, israel being...