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Into account everything that's happening on the immigration front. incredible challenges that we have in ensuring that latinos are also receiving equal treatment under the law. if it is a relay race then the next person grabbing this baton better pay attention to this issue. >> i like that you immediately started to expand the definition of civil rights. raul, i want to come to you in part on this because i think if we think about civil rights exclusively about african-american politics, then the president has a strong, but certainly not an lbj level record, right, on this. but if we think abo...

Must overcome the crippling legacy of bigotry, he really meant all of us, including hi , himself, right? so this suggests that that same tempered notion that president obama was giving us, when we look back at lbj, we see these great legislative applicators but it is always still just partial. it's never fully there. >> definitely. that's the matter of legislation. you can only take it to a certain point. behavior has to change, and that behavior has changed in many, many ways. obama symbolizes so many things of the civil rights movement. now the question is for us in this diverse country that...

Question, which is immigration and the extent to which civil rights as a central issue of our day right now is about immigration. we're going to ask this question, why is there a hunger strike in fronting of the white house right now. >> half a century later, the law's lbj passed are now as fundamental to our conception of ourselves and our democracy as the constitution. and the bill of rights. they are foundational. an essential piece of the american character. did you knowe vital nutrients as you age? [ male announcer ] that's why there's ocuvite to help replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite ...

>> amy, i sort of like this president obama rhetorically better. i love -- i loved the yes, we can, especially for campaigning, like i said that as a strategy. but i appreciate that he tempered the sort of performance of hope that he often does by suggesting, man, this is hard and we may not be making much progress right now. >> well, i think the key word there is "we" because with this whole looking back 50 years to lbj, i think the critical point is you have to go beyond lbj as even obama referenced to the movements. it wasn't lbj that did this, it was the movements that forced him to. the m...

Going to push him to do. and i think clearly right now, the movement that is pushing the hardest, that is the most organized, is the immigrants' rights movement. and the question is not so much what is obama going to do but what are people demanding. >> well, i always look at the civil rights act and voting rights act and the immigration act -- i can see him moving into this. we saw george bush do this in 2006 when he started to break away from cheney. you start to think about your legacy. i think as a democratic president, obama is also looking at the big picture, right. we know there's fdr a...