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>> that's hard to read. because while the indictment does spell out two phases or schemes with the last one ending the second one charged today in 2015 or 2016, it doesn't look like it's directly in any way to the campaign. so i think this is just something that they discovered in the course of the investigation. what is interesting is that it's clear that manafort had deep financial problems at one point. but when he joins the campaign suddenly he is getting great sums of money, millions of dollars in loans that he was unable to accomplish before. and that was part of the fraud. >> ken, these...

To do with russia and the 2016 election interference/collusion. is he signaling here that, you know, hey, i've got your back here, looking for a pardon from the president? >> well, i -- you know, i can't get into donald trump's mind, but -- >> that was from mueller. that's a mueller spokesperson. >> right. as to whether he -- >> manafort, excuse me. >> i think manafort would like a pardon and i think he's holding out. maybe that's why gates never did crack a deal if he thinks he's going to get a pardon too. they're playing a dangerous game. >> go ahead, ken. >> one of the things that should be...

To build that elusive hotel in moscow. manafort and gates really opened up a whole new world of contacts for them. so gates and manafort have significant information. eventually they will, i think, even if it's after a conviction have to cooperate and talk about the financial dealings which they're aware of between the trump organization, trump and this russian and ukrainian money that was pouring into the trump organization at the same time that the campaign was proceeding. >> john, president trump had previously been miss missive of a pardon for the people close to him who had been tied up i...

Nefarious financial activity they did well before in campaign. and they are going to pay the price for that. but the key with this now moving forward is that all signs are indicating that mueller and the team are trying to get information about what they know about activities that happened when they were on the campaign. and whether or not they may cooperate and flip and provide information. so i think that's where the concern lies with what information they're willing to give up in order to save their hide with their financial dealings. and, you know, the question remains whether or not presi...

Easily abused >> john, let me ask you about this. paul manafort responded to the new charges via his spokesperson saying paul manafort is innocent of the allegations set out in the newly filed indictments. and he is confident that he will be acquitted of all charges. the new allegations against mr. manafort once again have nothing to do with russia and 2016 election interference/collusion. is he signaling here -- my previous guest says he may have been- signaling that hey, i've got your back here, looking for a pardon from the president? >> well, i -- you know, i can't get into donald trump's ...