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Like 28 other states where electors are bound by a vet of the people, and so our vote as electors reflects the popular vote here in utah. utah. >> all right. richard, you put up with a lot of nonsense here and stayed pretty strong. thank you very much. >> thank you. merry christmas. >> to you as well. again, this would ptrump over t. he is at 267. he needs 270 to win. the scene in austin, which is a big chunk of 38 electors, there was one who was on this show who had vowed not to vote for him, might cast his vote for john kasich, republican governor of ohio. governor kasich said, i'm not inter...