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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181217:21:27:00 - Vimarsana News

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>> yeah, that's a good question. the difference here and the calculation perhaps a mistake, and we won't know for some time the legal team made is that they were going to publicly attack mueller and go after that investigation. they spent far less time going after the investigation in new york by sdny. and the question is that were they sort of taking their eye off the ball and concentrating on the wrong thing? when the real exposure and the real problem was coming from sdny because now after all of these months and almost years of witch hunt talk of attacking mueller and undermining that inve...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181217:21:28:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181217:21:28:00

>> and there's one man responsible for those cases going to sdny. who is that? how did those cases end up there? >> well, we think the reason -- we believe that they're there because of deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. he was the one that was in charge of the investigation when the cohen part of it was taken out of mueller, certainly not given to mueller and given to the prosecutors in new york. and for some, that -- looking back on that could be an incredibly powerful, important decision because if mueller had the cohen part of this, would that have sort of undermined the findings of t...

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181217:21:14:00

He gave, it would have covered all the way up to november of -- covered all the way to november of 2016. said he had conversations with him about -- >> earlier they said those conversations stopped in january 2016. >> i don't -- i mean the date -- until you actually sit down and answer the questions and you go back and you look at the papers and look at the -- you're not going to know what happened. that's why lawyers, you know, prepare for those answers. >> okay. i need to recap that because my brain can't process all that. so according to the answer he gave, this is rudy's knowledge of the w...

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That a sitting president can't be indicted really have never been applied to a situation where the alleged crime or the possible crime may have put the president in office in the first place. is that a legal theory popping up more and more? >> yeah. i don't know if it's widely held. i think that your average lawyer in washington who follows this stuff closely would probably not necessarily agree with neil. he's taking an aggressive view here but certainly one that i'm sure folks in the justice department understand and have heard. now we do know that, according to trump's lawyers, mueller's of...

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A crime but it wouldn't be mueller, it would be an offshoot of what he was directing, that would be pretty surprising to some people. but they seem to be pretty confidence. mueller seems to be increasingly confident judging by the filing that he's putting out. the guilty plea that he reached with michael cohen that's very much focused on the trump tower moscow meeting. so i think this is happening on two tracks and it's definitely advancing very quickly on two tracks. >> and we're going to keep talking about this all hour. aaron blake, thank you for starting us off. when we come back, anothe...