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Resources to figure it out. >> yes. there are bills in congress to punl for money to states for this. none of them have passed. >> ken dilanian, thank you very much. joining me is charles sole, the former national service intelligence officer at the director of national intelligence. someone else who knows this stuff was happening. charles, we've had people who have written books about it, talked about it. it seems fascinating to me when two days ago i hear secretary of state rex tillerson talking about, the russians might be trying to hack us, not sure there's anything we can do about it. >...

The dni? >> sure. you had my former boss jim clapper on. that would have been his job and under his purview. you know, i'd also point out, ali, it's not just the political system that's under threat. cleared industry is being attacked by russian cyber groups like fancy bear. that's a problem for us as well. >> clapper raises the alarm every time we talk to him about this. i wouldn't have guessed that sort of position is political and the next person doesn't have the same general set of priorities and russian interference in the election wouldn't be priority one, two or three. >> you're absolut...