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Can be questioned by mueller. i think the crime-fraud exception means that it wouldn't be privileged. and i think if not the first, either the second or third question will be jill's favorite, what did the president know and when did he know it? because the question is is there conspiracy here to obstruct. and it wouldn't simply be -- it's not even a pardon for quiet. here it's the sort of secret backroom deal as the potential issue, where the president, through dowd, is saying keep quiet, do exactly what manafort has done through these months and there will be a pardon at the end of the day. ...

Porn stars, as you just designated them. so it could be that he is in very deep trouble right now, john dowd. >> harry litman, give me your reading legally where john dowd stands and what this means to the case. >> i agree with jill. he's in the soup and i think he can be questioned by mueller. i think the crime-fraud exception means that it wouldn't be privileged. and i think if not the first, either the second or third question will be jill's favorite, what did the president know and when did he know it? because the question is is there conspiracy here to obstruct. and it wouldn't simply be ...