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Watching shes like them too. Actually all of you guys, phil rucker, reverend al, jess, john, you guys are all goats of a way and my goat we mean the greatest of all time. That does it for this hour. I was in for nicolle wallace. She will be back next week and you all will be glad. Speaking of g. O. A. T. S, mtp daily starts now. Heilemann, you got me to quickly google the men who stare at goats. Do you remember that movie . I thought it was going to be extraordinarily funny and, well, i cant quote a single line from it other than the title. I cant believe you actually that is what this made yo...

>> that's a great question, and look, this is an initial discussion. i think that we -- those of us who lived this firsthand, who were witness to what trump was capable of, we know there were no red lines he wouldn't cross. we have experienced this. and i think what we're seeing right now is that he is still out there, and he is still a big influence in our political system, whether we like to admit it or not, and, look, case in point, all of these candidates that are running that are more on the extreme side who are continuing to run on a platform of the 2020 election being stolen, a platform...

Recently. and putin would do whatever he could get away with. and if the cost is too high, he wouldn't cross the ukrainian border. now the cost is getting gradually higher and higher for him, but he still believes he can get away, but this recent crisis reveals the depths of the crisis in europe. this is 20 years of policy, special lasting 16 years, of building this. germany kept dependence. but even today, europe buys about one third of its gas supply from russia. russia sells more than 80% of its gas to europe. who has the leverage here. it's more about corruption and lack of political will ...

First, which is to say, learn to talk to each other. we will not yell our way out of this. we need to take those lying to the american people and make sure they never win an election again. >> what is it like being one of the only people in your party willing to actually speak out about what happened on january 6, stand up to the big lie publically? you alluded to the threat it may pose to your career. you say that's not what concerns you. things are more important than that. does it frustrate you at all that this could get you voted out of congress? >> look, it makes me sad. sad because i kno...

Had no motive to suppress it, but my suspicion all along was there was nothing there. it was all bull bleep. bar ultimately made his findings public. on december 1st he told the "ap" the justice department uncovered no widespread voter fraud that could change the outcome of the election, a statement the ex-president didn't take kindly. bender reports that soon after the "ap" story went public trump confronts barr asking, how the -- could you do this to me? why did you say it? quote, because it's true, barr replied. the president, livid, responded by referring to himself in the third person. yo...