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They can't control him. joe always makes a joke that he's the stupid guy, but when you are with him he realized that his genius is that he is so terrifying, is like a human lie detector. you don't want to lie in front of that guy. and it's stamina, you are there for like three hours. whatever you need to hear from me, it better be the truth or you might break me in half. >> i could never do that. how long rihanna with him? >> we were on for 2.5 hours and then he goes, now let's talk about nuclear power. and i was like, i was like i'm out. what do i need to do to signal that you win. it was an ...

Deal with them. well, well, hey. hey, cnn. he was literally on one of the shows that they were talking about. the thing about joe rogan that makes him so special right now and shouldn't make them special is that he's being a grown man. if you come at me, i'm going to come at you back. and he's even asking why. the goal of cnn was to cancel joe. the best part of this, the accoutrement of this is that brian stelter got destroyed. we didn't see it, but he ripped on brine so bad the last time not stopped or came on coming had lowest ratings ever. he had like six people. one of them was the postage...

Three-hour conversations -- that was actually good conversation. right? so he's the new cnn. >> cnn is actually doing all the things, creating a lot of the things that complain about. it supposedly bad, they don't want people to take horace dewormer. but by saying that joe rogan took horace dewormer, because he's okay, right? they are actually going to be sending the message that horace dewormer is okay appeared not the people who acknowledge the difference between a human prescription and veterinary horace dewormer. >> greg: wouldn't it be funny if the horace dewormer was better than the huma...

>> wouldn't it be cool to be able to overturn the results of on election is i guess one way to put it. what do you think of that, john? >> reporter: wouldn't it be cool. that sort of sums up donald trump's approach to how he handled norms and boundaries and guidelines of the presidency. what we saw from mike pence was he bent but didn't break under stress. we know that he also consulted former vice president dan quayle, for example, to get advice on how to handle the situation. dan quayle said you have no authority, you have no flexibility, don't do it. that's ultimately what mike pence did, h...