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Is with all of knees contexts, these 16 people that were in and around the trump campaign who had direct contact with russia during the campaign, what -- how did it come to fruition, and also a reminder that i'm sure david had this told to him, when he started out in campaigns. when a foreign national approaches you, you don't engage. you pick up the phone and call the fbi and say, guess what, a foreign national just approached me, especially if it's a russian. that didn't happen in this case, the question is, was it just ignorance of those protocols? or was it because there was something more...

Incredibly well and you know him and how he negotiates. this is when he was donald j. trump, not president trump. michael cohen pays $130,000 to stormy daniels. is there any way that donald trump didn't know about it? >> i can't imagine that, no. absolutely he knew about everything. absolutely. even things that weren't so major he knew about. people just told him what they were doing and he said, fine, do it, and he gave them authority within the confines of what they were doing. >> it's interesting you're saying small things and big things, but $130,000 is not small. so there's no question he...

State. >> that is a little bit much. i think the cast here is unique. honestly, he's my president, i want him to succeed, he's his own worst enemy. >> scott, final word? >> i think they're going to find somebody good, i think that there's going to be a good list to choose from, they don't have to make a hasty decision here. the president may operate for some time without a chief of staff. the biggest issues facing him, the investigation and getting the economy on track for his re-election campaign. the chief has to be fully focused on those two issues. >> president trump scrambling to find his...

This is the nra republican circles, she met donald trump junior at an event. and she gets into an event with donald trump himself. she's the first person he calls on. >> i'm visiting from russia. >> putin, good friend of obama. >> what will be politics especially in relationship with my country. do you want to continue the politics of sanctions that are damaging both economies or you have any other ideas? >> okay. obama gets along with nobody. the whole world hates us. i know putin and we get along with putin. i believe i would get along very nicely with putin, okay? >> okay. that was the firs...

She said she was a graduate student. it doesn't take anyone who has watched a good spy movie, you have to be careful in situations like this you're dealing with a political campaign or even the u.s. government that is really stunning. the last thing i will say by way of the time line. she asked then candidate that question, we know based on the filings last week and before that, the trump organization was actively trying to get trump moscow up and running. remember that as well. >> actively trying to do that. who knows what the marketing things were with the penthouse, everybody being consider...