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And the entire democratic field, as it were. where they think they may have a better shot. let's give you a sense of what we're hearing this morning. sarah sanders dismissing those polls you were talking about earlier. those internal polls, they're all wrong. like the polls they saw in 2016. then i reminded her that the numbers she is dismissing are internal polls. trump campaign polls. she ignored the question there. she also wouldn't preview the president's likely attacks targeting biden today. but like many of his aides have done, turn the table and arguing that biden has a lot of questions...

Talks about things being rigged, rigged, rigged, well there's a lot of projection that seems to be going on that he's not giving anybody the assurance that these investigations are not being tampered with in some way. >> matt miller i want to go back to the original point in this segment and that is rudy giuliani coming on board the trump team and the first thing he does is sit down at a basically, a principle to principle meeting, rudy giuliani to robert mueller, and he's trying to get a sense of what it is robert mueller needs. what is it that robert mueller would be able to tell giuliani in...

Trying to get a sense of what it is robert mueller needs. what is it that robert mueller would be able to tell giuliani in a situation like that? giuliani basically wants to know when does this end? >> i think mueller would be willing to tell him what he tells lawyers in this situation, we want to talk to your client about these specific areas, wouldn't preview the exact questions but want to look into the obstruction of justice, the june 9, 2016, trump tower meeting and give him a general sense. from rudy giuliani's side there's a tell in what he's doing, and it's the way he's out talking to ...