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In the community and in everywhere else really heard about this case, but that doesn't mean that they can't push aside what they heard and still be impartial. i think we find fair juries day in and day out in our system. let me say this, and i think people are sort of -- many people disagree with me, i think this case is ripe for some sort of plea deal. we found out about that in the gosnell trial in philadelphia. he was convicted of first degree murder and then immediately made a deal, taking the death penalty off the table and pleading to life in prison without the possibility of parole. i c...

Penalty relief permanent. these are things that go with any kind of a threshold that we hopefully could agree on. >> but you wouldn't take, for example, the only deal that was out there was the $250,000 or below, you would vote no? >> well, luke, i'm not going to make a commitment, because, you know, i don't know what else would be in it. i think we need to have some debt relief here. i think we need to address sequestration, and i think we need a reasonable amount that would still not have tax increases. i mean, i'd be for no one having a tax increase, but i know that i'm not in the majority ...

To endure without having the full defense that you would have if you were a nominee? plus, the fact that this would open a whole benghazi investigation. >> as you know, andrea, there is a commission that's reporting soon to the secretary of state on benghazi, but, as you know, once a nominee is named, you basically go into a very silent period, so if either ambassador rice or senator kerry were nominated, they would have to go into a very quiet period, and until the actual hearing took place, which probably wouldn't take place in january anyway, there would be no comment, no visibility by eith...

They think that there is a price to pay for the president. what do you see as a political calculation here? >> he has uncovered the facts here and they've shown that no senior department justice officials from the attorney general to other officials in washington knew anything about what happened with respect to gun walking in arizona and fast and furious. they don't like that answer. they've rejected any opportunity for a deal. they had a deal on the opportunity last week that they wouldn't take. they had another on the table last night that they wouldn't take. they can't take yes for an answ...

Gandhi-like creature who wouldn't take bribes, wouldn't take money from the lobbyists, wouldn't go on a junket because he knew it was taxpayer paid vacation, wouldn't go into little rooms, pick stocks and decide the policy to dictate whether the stocks go up or down. he was pure. now he's in apartmental run and trying to reform the whole system. it's not an easy task, but we're pleased with what's happening. >> doug, ron paul essentially is not campaigning in the state of michigan which holds its primary on tuesday. he is running an attack ad against rick santorum. my question to you is why ri...