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Treat them like they took your wallet and focus on the part that matters. holding each person accountable for the impact of their words and actions. >> this gets to something that the point you're making there, when we talk about conversations about race, rather than saying, you are a racist, or -- just focus on the individual things that happen, right? >> i can't not tease jay about the kind of like brother way he was trying to talk. you know, hey, with the rap music in the background. >> i'm a rap guy. >> but it's another interesting funny thing about race. there would be some people who fee...

>> i can't not tease jay about the brother way he was talking. >> i'm a rap guy. >> i know, but it is another interesting and funny thing about race. some people would feel that you co-oped it, and other people feel like that's his background and that is cool, too. someone takes my wallet, it is interesting since you were talking -- >> i am actually black, but you assumed otherwise, and this is the sort of awkwardness. >> but on top of all of that, i'm clearly brown skill, and people say you talk white, you act white, you want to be white, you're white. >> can you have that conversation, or an...

Impeer icallyim imperically. it just went about documenting in a rigorous way that avoided a lot of the -- >> i can't not tease jay about the brother way he was talking. >> i'm a rap guy. >> i know but it is another interesting and funny thing about race. some people would feel that you co-oped it and other people feel like that's his background and that is cool too. someone takes my wallet it is interesting since you were talking -- >> i am actually black, but you assumed otherwise, and this is the sort of awkwardness. >> but on top of all of that i'm clearly brown skill, and people say you t...