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aa will even have a meeting on your cruise ship floating in the middle of the caribbean. all of this was built not by government, or by business, but rather in an incredibly social way. two people started talking to each other and supporting each other on how to stop drinking. aa meetings grew out of that concept. millions of people say it changed and saved their lives, including many in our legal system. with courts often mandating aa for people with alcohol or drug problems. one of that is also just a completely central part of our culture. when someone talks about someone going into recovery, we know what that means. according to a new article in the atlantic, today there are more than 13,000 rehab facilities in the united states and 70 to 80% of them are in the 12 steps. here's the question, does aa work? or more precisely, is there medical evidence that it works better than other possible
the point you're making there, when we talk about conversations about race, rather than saying, you are a racist, or -- just focus on the individual things that happen, right? >> i can't not tease jay about the kind of like brother way he was trying to talk. you know, hey, with the rap music in the background. >> i'm a rap guy. >> but it's another interesting funny thing about race. there would be some people who feem you -- feel you co-opted something like that, and others feel that's his background and that's cool, too. yo, like, you no, somebody takes my wallet. it's interesting when -- >> it's also interesting because i'm actual black. because you assumed otherwise. this is the sort of awkwardness we can look forward to. >> see? absolutely. >> a lot of people have been sharing that part of the conversation today. father jones, gawker, "new york magazine," and jay smooth should -- was even trending on facebook and which was great because he should be trending on all media
>> and sometimes those treatment centers have aa within those treatment centers. within those in-patient units. >> often they do, right? >> by the way, that's illegal. to be sentenced to aa is against the law. it's a violation of the first amendment. and in the ninth circuit court of appeals. two giant cases -- >> i'm sure you know, too, that the psychiatrists who came out with a book against aa -- >> quoted in the piece. retired from harvard. >> he said alcoholism is not a disease, and if you do nothing it will get maybe better on its own comparatively. >> empirical data will say that. >> there is also research that has been highly supportive of how well aa works for people in terms of, you know, resolving their issues, and staying abstinent for up to two years. that there's a 20% difference if you look at controlled random studies. so it really depends on the quality of the study, how you're interpreting the study.
when we talk about conversations about race rather than saying you are a racist or -- just focus on the individual things that happen, right? >> i can't not tease jay about the kind of like brother way he was trying to talk. you know hey, with the rap music in the background. >> i'm a rap guy. >> but it's another interesting funny thing about race. there would be some people who feel you co-oped something like that, and others feel that's his background and that's cool too. yo, like you no somebody takes my wallet. it's interesting when -- >> because i'm actually black. but you assumed otherwise. this is the sort of awkwardness we can look forward to. >> see? absolutely. >> a lot of people have been sharing that part of the conversation today. father jones gawker "new york magazine," and jay smooth should be trending on all media platforms. first, sometimes live tv is
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go to aa 12-step recovery. or we pay sometimes, whether it's health insurance, or it's for medicaid, right, a recovery program, a treatment program is 28 days of this specific type of treatment. >> and sometimes those treatment centers have aa within those treatment centers. >> often they do, right? >> by the way, that's illegal. to be sentenced to aa is against the law. it's a violation of the first amendment. and in the ninth circuit court of appeals. two giant cases -- >> i'm sure you know, too, that the psychiatrists who came out with a book against aa -- >> quoted in the piece. went to harvard. >> he said alcoholism is not a disease, and if you do nothing it will get maybe better on its own comparatively. >> empirical data will say that. >> there is also research that has been highly supportive of how well aa works for people in terms of, you know, resolving
whether a person wants to admit it or not? we all have some level of unconscious bias. if we can approach that with a higher degree of empathy and compassion and understanding, it will go a long way to bridge the divide. >> last night on this show we had a conversation about having conversations in the wake of starbucks' new initiative encouraging baristas to talk openly to customers about race as part of the campaign called race together. the conversation we had, nancy and james, pretty fascinating, i thought. at one point it got kind of awkward. >> when somebody picks my pocket, i'm not going to be chasing him down to find out whether he feels like he's a thief deep down in his heart. i'm going to be chasing him down to get my wallet back. i don't care what he is but i need to held him accountable for what he did. treat them like they took your wallet and focus on the part that matters. holding each person accountable for the impact of their words and actions. >> this gets to something that
we'll play incredible, incredible sound from rick santorum. which is the dynamic process by which a primary is this way in which donor interests, grass roots activists, everyday voters, politico is their staff, right, in this dynamic process, create a set of positions, right? they put stakes in the ground. and to me, what's dangerous here is allowing certain interests in iowa to dictate what stake you put in the ground. particularly steve king on immigration. >> steve king is a, i think, very nightmarish politician. anybody named king in the congress, i think qualifies there. but this whole act with liz, brightbar ran this awful story that if andraw brightbar was
treat them like they took your wallet and focus on the part that matters. holding each person accountable for the impact of their words and actions. >> this gets to something that the point you're making there, when we talk about conversations about race, rather than saying, you are a racist, or -- just focus on the individual things that happen, right? >> i can't not tease jay about the kind of like brother way he was trying to talk. you know, hey, with the rap music in the background. >> i'm a rap guy. >> but it's another interesting funny thing about race. there would be some people who feel you co-oped something like that, and others feel that's his background and that's cool, too. yo, like, you no, somebody takes my wallet. it's interesting when -- >> because i'm actually black. but you assumed otherwise. this is the sort of awkwardness we can look forward to. >> see? absolutely. >> a lot of people have been sharing that part of the conversation today.
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