the point you're making there, when we talk about conversations about race, rather than saying, you are a racist, or -- just focus on the individual things that happen, right? >> i can't not tease jay about the kind of like brother way he was trying to talk. you know, hey, with the rap music in the background. >> i'm a rap guy. >> but it's another interesting funny thing about race. there would be some people who feem you -- feel you co-opted something like that, and others feel that's his background and that's cool, too. yo, like, you no, somebody takes my wallet. it's interesting when -- >> it's also interesting because i'm actual black. because you assumed otherwise. this is the sort of awkwardness we can look forward to. >> see? absolutely. >> a lot of people have been sharing that part of the conversation today. father jones, gawker, "new york magazine," and jay smooth should -- was even trending on facebook and which was great because he should be trending on all media
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